They Said It! But What Do You Think?!?

Two former San Carlos residents recently criticized the city's new minted coins! Are they right, or wrong? We want to hear from you!

On a recent morning, Jim and Anthony Miller, former San Carlos residents, wrote into San Carlos Patch to vent about how they feel about the city's new coin program.

The program, implemented while Omar Ahmad was still Mayor, was installed as a way for the city to say 'thank you' to a select number of citizens for the contributions they make to the city.

The cost of the coins is $2,500 for 300 coins, which averages to just more than $8 per coin.

Former Mayor Randy Royce's wife, Yvette, who has been a librarian at Heather Elementary School for many years and who has done extensive volunteer work for the city, was the recent recipient of the coin. 

Here's what the Millers had to say:

"COINS? Let me see if we have this correct. Second Harvest Food Bank is stretched very thin, Crossing Guards are gone, The Police Department went "poof" and the Fire Department has to rent a Battalion Chief. Parks Services is contracted out and San Carlos has money for COINS? Wait. Don't tell us! San Carlos can afford this. Not only that, the powers that be can give them to friends and family first. Gotta love democracy. COINS!

We don't have much to do with San Carlos any more, but we still have friends there we see occasionally. This coin thing has been a great source of humor for us. We list it among the very best examples of the 
democratic process in small town America."


Do you agree of disagree with the Millers take on the new coins the city is giving out? Are they being too critical of a well-intentioned program? Or are the coins a waste of money?

Let us know in the comments!

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Tom Ricks February 06, 2012 at 02:19 PM
Coins?!?!? ---Yes they cost money.....and Yes there maybe some "croonie-ism" in who gets the first ones......but if someone truly has been giving of their time for years and years -with no pay....I guess I can justify (in my own mind) that we give them a "whiz-bang coin" For those who are dollars and cents minded---figure out how much we would have paid someone to do the work they did for free.......While I have been a citizen of this fair city for over 6 decades- I don't know any of the "players" in this game so don't have a personal stake in any of it.......That is my 2-cents worth.
Tim Murphy February 06, 2012 at 07:34 PM
I think the coins are a good and inexpensive way of being ready to honor friends of the city with a memento they can keep. Get worked up about something that matters!
Carolyn V. San Carlos resident since 1978 February 06, 2012 at 09:44 PM
What does it cost to make these coins? Maybe residents might have comments if we knew how much this costs.
Kenny Porpora February 06, 2012 at 09:52 PM
Hi Carolyn - The cost is $2,500 for 300 coins. It averages to just more than $8 per coin. I added this information into the story. What do you think?
Holly Bell February 07, 2012 at 12:06 AM
These coins are given to people who volunteer their own time to make up for some of the "problems" that the Millers are complaining about!! I agree with Tim Murphy - get a real concern. How about one that doesn't discourage one of the few bits of good news out there. And while you are at it, mind your own business, former residents! Sounds like sour grapes.
Holly Bell February 07, 2012 at 12:07 AM
Having said that, giving the first coin to the wife of a city council member is very poor judgement.
Kali February 07, 2012 at 11:59 AM
I think it is a great idea. To the Millers, $2,500 is not that much, and would have not have done anything to change what needed to be done for the City of San Carlos to start growing again. I think honoring people for work they have done on their own time is great. It does not matter to me that Randy Royce's wife was honored first. If she earned it, that is what the coin is for. To both Millers, if this all you have to think about in your life, you are pretty lucky.
Randy Royce February 07, 2012 at 04:11 PM
During Council approval, Omar and I each contributed $300 to the City Coin program to offset City costs. Randy Royce
Andy C February 07, 2012 at 05:03 PM
The only thing wrong here is poor timing. In this lovely current economy, spending money on a program like this is not wise. People who are volunteering are not expecting to get anything for their efforts. If they are, then they are not volunteers!
james miller February 07, 2012 at 05:22 PM
OUCH! Paying attention to how your government spends your money is everyones concern, at least it should. Involved citizens are responsible citizens. We laud those individuals who have given hundreds and thousands of hours of their time to help with the quality of life in this community. But, it seems like many people missed the point. In Politics, as in many other arenas, perception is reality. What is the perception here? Thirty coins ?? The first to who ? Are there only 30 deserving people out there? Why is the proclamation so cumbersome? A clap of hands to Randy Royce for his steping forward and contributing. An open forum like this lets the Council know people are watching them and keeps citizens on their toes. Jim and Anthony Miller
Bill Bohlen February 07, 2012 at 06:44 PM
Kenny - My City does not give out coins, but they do give out Proclamations. Do you know how much it costs in San Carlos to do this? Not just the printing, but the time it takes to research and write them. I imagine it costs more to do a Proclamation than a city coin. Especially if you take out the $600 that Mr. Royce says he and Mr. Ahmad donated to the production of them. Also, since Mr. Miller is not a resident of San Carlos and he is attacking the city, I feel it is ok for me to chime in, since I am not a resident either. Mr. Miller you should try reading before your chime in. San Carlos minted 300 coins not 30. Also, to the Millers, it is great when people attack cities for recognizing volunteers. You obviously have never been recognized or more than likely never volunteer.
Kenny Porpora February 07, 2012 at 06:49 PM
Thanks for all your great comments! Who do you think is most deserving of these coins? Anyone you would nominate?
james miller February 07, 2012 at 10:27 PM
DOUBLE OUCH ! I am certainly NOT attacking volunteers,NOT attacking the City and again the point is missed. Recognition of sacrafices made by others is very uplifting and rewarding for the community. The question has never been about that, but about the methodology of the recognition, and the perception of poor judgment. As for being a volunteer, well, our records are clear here. A list would be called bragging so lets just say my son and I have a substantial history of stepping up when someone needed us to. Oh, wait, did I mention my volunteering for Vietnam when I was in the service? I stand corrected on the coins. The issue is the same. This effort to bring an issue before the citizens of San Carlos has degenerated into character attacks and comments that just arent worthy of San Carlos residents............well, at least that is what I first thought, (sigh One gets the government one votes for, or not. Don Eaton should be ar the top of the list.
Scresident February 08, 2012 at 11:02 PM
I think the millers bring up good points, a proclamation is less expensive than these coins. The council has outsourced just about everything and are now buying coins and new banners placed all over the city. The only thing not outsourced is the highly paid city management. Should we consider in-incorporating the city?


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