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The Green, Green 'Grass' of Home

The Belmont Parks and Recreation Commission will discuss replacing the grass at the Belmont Sports Complex with synthetic turf at Wednesday's meeting.

As more and more cities around the Peninsula replace grass athletic fields with synthetic turf, the City of Belmont is considering following suit by installing the ever-green, no-watering-needed material at the Belmont Sports Complex.

The proposed project includes the installation of synthetic turf on the four-acre North Field and potentially the South Field.

The matter will be discussed tonight at the monthly meeting of the Belmont Parks and Recreation Commission. City staff has recommended the discussion based on extensive research and evaluation of turf projects throughout the Bay Area. 

According to a city staff report, the advantages to synthetic over natural turf are:

  • Turf fields have significantly less operating costs because of reduced maintenance labor and material to maintain
  • The new synthetic turf fields increase by 40% to 60% the amount of playable hours
  • Synthetic turf fields do not have to be closed for long periods of maintenance and rehabilitation, and rarely have to be closed due to rainy weather
  • They do not require the imposition of a ceiling on playable hours in order to protect the quality of the field.
  • The flatness and uniformity of the new synthetic turf fields produce venues that provide better and safer recreational opportunities for soccer, baseball, softball and other sports

The firm of Callander Associates Landscape Architecture, Inc. was selected for the project, and entered into a Professional Services Agreement with the City in June 2011.

Tonight's agenda item is for discussion only, no vote will be taken. But if you'd like to be a part of the discussion, come on down to the Parks and Recreation Commission meeting at 7:00 p.m. in the City Council Chambers of Belmont City Hall, One Twin Pines Lane.

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Member September 5, 2012 at 01:14 pm
I was reading the Staff Report about the Belmont Sports Complex Synthetic Turf Project. Could somebody help me understand why the project committee is at an impasse and no option has been selected for over a year? The report can be found at http://www.belmont.gov/Upload/Document/D240008638/PRC09052012VB.pdf
Joan S. Dentler (Editor) September 5, 2012 at 01:34 pm
Thank you for adding the link to the staff report member. As a reminder, Parks and Rec Commission meetings are broadcast live on Comcast Channel 27, or can be streamed via the city's website www.belmont.gov
Yasemin B. September 5, 2012 at 02:13 pm
I'm always a bit sceptic when there are merely 'pros' listed for any issue. It gives the impression of a 'sales' pitch, doesn't it?
Hopefully the 'cons' for plastic turf will be discussed tonight, too (easily 'green' ones come to mind i.e. carbon footprint/carbon offset, temperature, hygiene) otherwise it would be a waste of time...
Kevin Sullivan September 5, 2012 at 02:42 pm
The public process is not always easy as I'm sure you are all aware. The whole idea is everyone is allowed a voice so the process takes time and there are often differences of opinions, goals and personal agendas.
The public process does not work like the private process, that gets frustrating for some, but it's designed to ensure decisions are made in public and with some form of consensus. It is not as easy as sending well crafted notes on a comments page. Making public decisions takes work. The minutes of the meetings are available. The staff report is on the city website. The meeting is public and everyone is welcome to come and get informed. This is actually an example of how our Democracy is supposed to work - we make information available, we let everyone discuss it, then we attempt to make decisions in the view of the public. Its a small town and often few people come to meetings that make big differences. I invite anyone who posts comments here to come to the meeting or watch on TV and then get involved in the process. These are decisions that will likely affect you if you live in Belmont.
Joan S. Dentler (Editor) September 5, 2012 at 03:38 pm
Well said Kevin....thanks for your comment. It underscores the importance of community outreach and input from concerned residents and businesses. And again, anyone who can't attend a meeting, can watch it live on Channel 27, or stream it from www.belmont.gov
Mike Swire September 5, 2012 at 06:41 pm
Hi Joan, can you follow up with Parks & Rec. to identify the sources for their claims that operating costs are significantly lower, playing time may increase by up to 60%, injuries will fall, and quality of play will increase? Are these based on the SF study mentioned in the staff report, or are they based on actual findings for cities that have installed artificial turf?
The following article from the University of Arkansas Division of Ag (unbiased?) suggests that many of these claims are not true: http://turf.uark.edu/turfhelp/archives/021109.html. The article also raises the issues of high disposal costs, increased likelihood of infections, unsafe playing temperatures on hot days, and environmental concerns. These were not covered in the staff report. Thanks.
Steve Hayes September 5, 2012 at 07:04 pm
Mike
Most of the downside issues discussed in the article you referenced have to do with heat - heat is not a problem at the Sports Complex or anywhere else in Belmont. The author went on to write - "I don’t dispute that there are certain situations in which an artificial field might be an appropriate choice and I don’t disregard a coach’s preference. We also do not dispute that an artificial field could host more events each year, which could be beneficial in certain situations." Our problem is that we have limited areas for fields and we do not have enough fields. That deficiency can be rectified by increasing utilization, which is exactly what Turf offers.
Mike Swire September 5, 2012 at 08:48 pm
Yes, Steve, everyone wants more field capacity. Before we spend $3 million on this project, however, we should have a realistic understanding of the costs, benefits, and negatives.
The article mentions nine negatives/myths related to artificial turf. Only one has to do with heat. Here is another study by the City of San Diego. It shows that over 20 years, artificial turf costs almost $2.6 million more than natural grass. Per participant hour of use, artificial turf is 70% more expensive than natural grass. http://www.sandiego.gov/park-and-recreation/pdf/110303item501b.pdf
Joan S. Dentler (Editor) September 5, 2012 at 09:46 pm
Mike, I'm going to lob that question over to Jonathan Gervais, p&r director and the commission.
Steve Hayes September 5, 2012 at 10:33 pm
I agree that they need a cost benefit analysis - the keys will be how much more use will they get (San Diego only assumed a 25% increase) and how often will they need to replace the turf.
Bill Doheny September 5, 2012 at 11:56 pm
Hi Everyone;
Let me offer the perspective of a parent who has had a child playing youth club soccer for the past 5 years. In my search for places to keep him challenged, I have found that the neighboring communities have more to offer compared to Belmont. This includes the fields available to the local youth clubs and the involvement of the local government with the youth programs. There is tremendous support of the local governments with the youth sports clubs and the facilities that they use. As a long-time resident of Belmont, I find it disheartening that we cannot create the same type of community support for our local youth sports, but rather choose to argue the nuances of each new proposal before the city council. While I understand this is democracy at work, other communities find a way to get things done. For reference, please visit Foster City which will very soon have 4 public parks with turf fields available to their local youth sports programs (which are thriving by the way). As to the use of these fields, I have sat in the car and watched my son practice many times in the pouring rain (his coach is from Ireland where he claims the weather is much worse). Take care; Bill Doheny
Steve Hayes September 6, 2012 at 01:50 pm
Based on meeting last night regarding Turf at Belmont Sports Complex
Cost Benefit Belmont has a cost benefit analysis that shows the City would save roughly $800K by adding Turf (over a 10 year period). The study needs to be updated in several ways – to reflect minor turf cost adjustments, to reflect the final field configuration (still undecided), maintenance costs need to be recalculated (the current annual Turf maintenance assumption seems much too low) and the time horizon needs to be adjusted from 10 years to at least 20 years to take in account the reTurfing costs which will happen every 10 years. Once those adjustments are made I would guess the costs of both alternatives (grass versus Turf) would be about the same – no savings either way. However, the opportunity for utilization would go up substantially with Turfing. A key assumption is that both alternatives (natural grass vs. Turf) will require the same costly redevelopment of the underlying drainage systems to eliminate the seepage of water into the landfill underneath the field.
Steve Hayes September 6, 2012 at 01:51 pm
Field Configuration Choices
Everyone agreed that Turfing was a good idea, but there was little agreement on the configuration of the North field (the big field) – the choices are A2 or B1 (see the analysis Member posted above). Soccer people want to Turf everything (A2) except the baseball batters box and the pitchers mound (both would remain clay). The baseball people prefer B1, which would retain the natural grass and dirt infield along with a permanent pitchers mound. The arguments are- Baseball needs a real pitchers mound most of the year (Spring/Summer and Fall ball. Sliding into bases on Turf would cause too many injuries and sliding on Turf is less predictable (hard to judge the slide length on turf). The natural grass infield slows down the ball making it easier and less dangerous to field ground ball. Turf has a hard base and the ball would not lose any speed as it passes through the infield – not good if you consider a 13 year old trying the field a ball batted by a much larger 15 year old. As I see it the baseball choice would reduce the opportunity for U19 soccer play. However, there are new U19 fields at Notre Dame and Carlmont and possibly at the CSUS proposed site – all having artificial turf. Even though more kids play soccer I think we should retain the natural baseball infield – the only City baseball field. B1 is the best choice - a perfectly reasonable compromise. The Commission made no final decision about the configuration last night.
Steve Hayes September 6, 2012 at 01:52 pm
City Needs to Bank Operating Savings
Turfing will reduce the annual operating costs – water and maintenance. However it will be important for the City to retain (bank) most of the savings to help pay for the returfing that will happen about every 10 years. It would not be prudent to use the money for something else.
belmont September 6, 2012 at 02:03 pm
Steve, I agree with you. We need to retain the natural grass and dirt infield and pitchers mound. My son is playing fall baseball down at the BSC and the field is amazing! For those who have not been down there lately, the playing fields are extremely crowded right now with soccer and baseball practices occurring well until 7:30 pm at night....I was there this past Tuesday night and there were still people there at 8 pm.
Mike Swire September 6, 2012 at 07:21 pm
Thanks for the update, Steve. When you say that the costs of both alternatives would be about the same, are you including only operating costs or is the initial installation cost in there, too? If the former, what is the net increase in 20-year cost including installation?
Steve Hayes September 6, 2012 at 09:56 pm
Mike
The 10 year analysis included the installation costs as well as the operating costs. Of course the 10 year horizon turf savings ($800K) would be more than offset by the necessary returf at the end of year 10 but the net cost increase (returf would cost more than $800K) would then be be offset by the years 11-20 operating cost savings. The real purpose of the meeting was to get reenergize the process and the focus was on selecting the optimal field configuration. Only a couple of minutes were spent on cost and benefits out of a discussion lasting more than an hour.
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Michael G. Stogner June 15, 2013 at 05:07 pm
Marl Olbert said this right after refusing to second Matt Grocott's motion for 2 week delay of vote.Read More I wasn't here at the time but i talked to various people who were. It's my understanding that when Mr. Maltbie was hired into this position he was offered a significantly below market salary. both in terms of compensation and provision I think part because he has never been a city manager before. and he had to prove himself. you can make a argument that that wasn't fair. if you think the person is capable for doing the job not necessarily the fact that they don't have the experience. it happens all over the place it happened to me personally it's just a part of the accepted process but another part of the accepted process is that if the person proves themselves you have to keep faith with them and if you don't you're actually sending a message You're saying that you can't trust us and i totally think that Mr. Maltbie is worth the pay, but besides that i think it is a issue of integrity and maintaining the integrity of the negotiation process and the hiring process that's why I'm going to vote yes for it.
Michael G. Stogner June 15, 2013 at 05:08 pm
I would like to know who those various people were who gave Mark Olbert that understanding.
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Council member Mark Olbert one who refused to second Mr. Grocott's motion made an interestingRead More statement. "I wasn't here at the time but i talked to various people who were. It's my understanding that when Mr. Maltbie was hired into this position he was offered a significantly below market salary." I know for a fact that he didn't talk to Matt Grocott who was there. That leaves 3 potentials, 2 of them are deceased and the 3rd was Andy Klein who did not attend that meeting so he didn't vote. I would like to know who the "various people who were" are.
Marc Parent June 11, 2013 at 07:50 am
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Holly Bell June 8, 2013 at 01:23 pm
Unbelievable!! Many voters are watching this issue closely and will remember this vote. Evidently,Read More these commissioners believe that resident's have no voice in city decision-making. Someone please name those commissioners who disregarded the loud-and-clear preference of the people. Time to clean house.
Bob Farkas June 8, 2013 at 02:01 pm
The two commissioners who voted for turf were John Seiling and Ray Merala. It was Ray's lastRead More meeting as a commissioner since he has termed out after 9+ years of service. I think they felt that the needs of the elite CYSO program should take precedence over neighbors and others who use the park. Youth sports seems a principal influencer at Parks and Rec. as they are the largest organized user of the facilities. I agree with many other opponents of this project that we all need to support adequate fields for youth sports. I just think these needs have to be in balance with those of the rest of the community. It was very disappointing that, although it is field availability which is purportedly driving this initiative, there was no available recent data to demonstrate the problem or an analysis of how much of the problem would be addressed by this measure. To a businessman like me, this seems a very unprofessional approach.
Concerned Taxpayer June 8, 2013 at 07:08 pm
This is purely a NIMBY issue. Lets just all be honest about that. The folks who live across fromRead More Highlands Park were the loudest opponents there and were citing all kinds of crazy issues when they should have just been honest and said,"I really don't want to look at more people and cars at the public park that is across the street from me and was there when I moved in." That is essentially the true gripe. NIMBY!!! A very weak argument and unelectable dishonest. Unless you can create more land we have to extend the use at existing parks and fields. This is very logical. We live in California and having to use astro turf stinks but we also live where there is no more available land to utilize. The commissions punted this to the council pure and simple. Well we already know who will vote against it. I am curious who will vote for it?????
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